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#1 2018-05-03 02:08

Suggestion to clarify or re-organize the forums

This is probably a bit of OCD on my part, but as a former moderator at other forums, this kind of thing really irks me. There are currently 3 sub-forums on Iwara that seem to be a point of confusion regarding their purpose:

- Help/Questions
- Sharing
- Requests

For a native English speaker, it's probably more easily understood that these each have a different and distinct intended purpose which to my understanding would be as follows:

- Help/Questions sub-forum should likely be used to discuss technical issues related to MMD, like how do I get this effect to work in MMD? or How do I fix transparency? etc
- Sharing sub-forum should be used specifically by those who have content (models, motions, etc) to share with others, and posts there should only be made by those offering the content
- Requests sub-forum should be used by anyone looking to obtain content (models, motions, etc)

However, due to the apparent misunderstanding of these sub-forums, we are continually getting posts in each one by people asking for models, etc. I think posters would get better and more timely responses if they made their posts in the correct sub-forum. Better organization of these sub-forums would also help to make them easier to search for specific posts.. If there's a way to further clarify the purpose of each forum, that would help. If there were active moderators of the site, they could probably move posts the appropriate sub-forum instead. However, if clarification or moderation are not viable options, then I recommend a third option of just merging all 3 into a single sub-forum that covers all 3 aspects.

2018-05-03 04:47

I'd appreciate if they were merged. Since Requests and Sharing are basically just two sides of the same coin, I find it pointless to make a distinction where a link should go depending on whether someone asked for it before it was posted. The same goes for Help/Questions which is basically just a request but for Tutorials or Guides instead of models/effects/etc., so really all of the sub-forums overlap pretty heavily. Also since usually it's frowned upon to request something that's already been posted in a forum it creates the need for people to sift through hundreds of pages that could maybe have the thing they'd want, and the fact that there's no search feature in the forums means it's very likely they'll end up having to ask manually anyway.

I would start by making a checklist to show to people of places to search before asking for something in a new thread: "Have you checked the MMDA Booru?" "Have you googled it first?" "Does your question match any in this list of frequent topics that have stickied threads?" For example, at this point, there really should be an end-all-be-all thread/tutorial page on how to make clothes physically strip-able. That's an inherently "Iwara" topic that most regular MMD tutorials wouldn't bother covering, and there's at least one new thread about it every month. Requests on the forums should be for things that are not too easy to accurately describe in words concise enough to put in a browser search.

I feel like because so much of the forums are devoted to basically the same thing which you could summarize as "MMD Resources" there's no nudge towards other topics I think should be talked about more like "I'd like to see a video like this:" or "What are people's thoughts on this idea for a video I had?" or "What kind of video do people want to see more of?" These are topics more in regards to the artistic merits of the content on this site that go beyond just the technical resources (models, effects, sounds, set-ups, programs, etc) required to make them.

2018-05-03 20:00

I suggest keeping the Tutorials and Guides sub-forum separated. Thus far, posters have largely been using it for the intended purpose and as a result, it's relatively easy to search it for useful content.

The General sub-forum currently covers the ideas for vids stuff, so I'm not sure there is any need to break that out further. Anyone can post there to discuss things they want to see more of, less of, etc. On the other hand, forum threads are probably a less accurate way to measure that compared to video likes. Lots of likes = content that people will enjoy seeing more of, so take pointers from those. Few likes = content that people don't enjoy seeing, so up your game and try to post something better next time.

2018-05-04 06:16

na, people, especially newcomers, don't give a shit and make new threads pretty much anywhere. merging won't fix anything. the only solution is active moderating and thread purging, which I don't see happening... ever

2018-05-19 06:52

It appears the forums have added a sub-text line with tips for their usage. Thanks for that!